In recent years, though, there’s been a big shift in the way we talk about abortion. People who’ve had abortions have been able to share their stories widely on social media. Though, of course, they’ve faced a lot of pushback and hatred, real people sharing their stories about abortion is helping change mainstream conversation about reproductive rights in a big way. And it’s helping change our pop culture, too. On this episode, we talk with Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health researcher (and Bitch board member) Gretchen Sisson about the way abortion is portrayed on TV. Then, we talk with the great Renee Bracey Sherman, author of Saying Abortion Aloud: Research and Recommendations for Public Abortion Storytellers and Organizations, about the evolution of political rhetoric around abortion. Listen in!